Kick is Stake's new streaming platform - Is Trainwrecks involved?

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Live streaming at Kick

Live Streaming at Kick / Source: Shutterstock.com

What is Kick for a streaming platform and to what extent is Trainwrecks involved in this project? We want to answer this question. But in turn.

Not only German authorities are a thorn in the side of casino streams on Twitch. A first step in a gambling-free platform wurCA has already taken action. For a short time now, all of the Gambling sites that allow deposits with cryptocurrencies are banned .

At the same time, this Strike directly against Stake.com . Because this online casino had to be Recently, the network of influencers has been greatly expanded . Most casino streamers went into a partnership with Stake.com and thus presented the platform to a wiCA audience.

But not only Stake benefited from the business with the influencers . Duelbits, Rollbit and Roobet also stood out in this regard. However, it seems that Stake was particularly annoyed that their marketing strategy with the casino streamers on Twitch no longer works.

That's why Stake.com probably launched its own streaming service with Kick (the final confirmation is still missing). Trainwrecks is a Twitch streamer with 2.1 million followers. He announced his own platform with the From the casino streams on Twitch directly. Now it turns out that behind these big words probably a cooperation with Stake.com stick.

A Brief Review of the Recent Twitch Past

Since October 18, 2022 Casino streams on Twitch partially banned . We have already explained the procedure of the gaming platform. However, it is not about a general ban . Legal providers and casino sites from nations that come along with good customer protection are still welcome on Twitch.

Consequently, the category "slots" still exists. There are also still active casino streamers . But payment with cryptocurrencies is usually only possible with Casinos with a license on Curaçao prohibited. Exactly these gambling sites are now on Twitch in a way spellbound .

Trainwrecks, aka Tyler Niknam, feels snubbed by Twitch. He is currently unable to carry out his business to the extent that he would like to. That's why he announced his own streaming portal shortly after the new Twitch guidelines became known.

Previously, casino players were free to show the streams of their sessions on Twitch. These were golden times for successful influencers. Because some online casinos have let themselves pay for this advertising princely.

What is known so far about the new streaming platform "Kick"?

Kick is still in its infancy. But the portal has already been reached. There were only media reports about this a little over a week ago. Nevertheless, we have summarized once, what is known about Kick so far .

  1. The streaming sites (casinos) banned on Twitch are also welcome on Kick.
  2. This is because that Stake.com about co-founders allegedly Ed Craven is involved in the project whether as a co-owner or investor is not fully clarified.
  3. Ed Craven (Kicker-Username: Eddiee) led at the beginning of November 2022 first test streams
  4. Trainwrecks then advertised the broadcasts on the Kick portal.
  5. Streamers should be on kick 95% of subscription revenue (Twitch will soon be reduced to 50 percent among the top earners).
  6. Donations go 100 percent to the streamer.
  7. In addition, a immediate withdrawal possible (with Twitch only with the monthly billing).

Owner structures at Kick

Kick does it like Twitch, only the other way around. Twitch is mainly aimed at those interested in gaming. But over the years, categories such as "slots" or "just chatting" have become established in the program. However, Kick deliberately focuses on these categories and still allows the streamers to broadcast games.

Who owns the homepage Kick.com if he calls, surely the Similarity in categories and orientation compared to Twitch. While the streaming topic is clearly in the foreground, we have to painstakingly open up the ownership structures.

The corresponding information is not found on the homepage. However, the guys from Buffed.com it is broken down that the user "Eddiee" in the Kick.com Discord, and is active on Reddit. There is also a startup called "Easygo", which manages applications for Kick. There is a job advertisement with reference to Stake.com .

The connections of our "Eddiee", who Kick.com one of the first streamers was and who Kick.com Discord Admin is listed, as well as left his footprint on Reddit in connection with the new streaming platform, is an indication.

It makes sense that Stake co-founder Ed Craven a leadership role the project Kick.com hold on. Trainwrecks is probably the first piece of the puzzle to make the site known on a large scale.

Kick.com Home Page

Kick.com Homepage: The similarity to Twitch is unmistakable / Source: Kick.com

Is Kick a serious competitor to Twitch?

While we are writing this article, let's compare four popular categories from Kick and Twitch to each other.

Twitch Kick
Slots 14,714 Spectators 993 Spectators
Just Chatting 153,927 Spectators 865 Spectators
Call of Duty: Warzone 38,795 Spectators 101 Spectators
League of Legends 61,498 Spectators 76 Spectators

However, this comparison is by no means fair. Twitch has been online since June 6, 2011. Kick exists for a few weeks. However, the fact is that Kick is currently no competition yet it's for Twitch.

Nevertheless, the project is dangerous for the streaming giant. Because the conditions are for the streamers much more lucrative . Influencers keep a larger part of their income and donations. At the same time, a withdrawal is possible on customer request.

As the saying goes: competition invigorates business. Kick has Stake.com a well-paid partner and, with influencer Trainwrecks, his first streamer who boasts a high reach.

How does Trainwrecks benefit from his switch to Kick?

Trainwrecks last streamed for Twitch six days ago. So he hasn't disappeared from the portal yet. But the casino streamer is already actively promoting Kick. It seems to be only a matter of time before Tyler Niknam starts there.

A reasonable assumption is that Trainwrecks has a partnership with Stake.com has been received. He will be paid for his commitment to kick and stake. In addition, the casino streamer gets a bigger piece of the pie on Kick, like other influencers.

What sounds like great advantages at first, has yet to prove itself in practice. Because 50% of the revenue with 2.1 million followers on Twitch is certainly higher income than 95% of the revenue with a four- to five-digit following.

So the core question is: How many of the Trainwrecks fans switch from Twitch to Kick together with him? In any case, Niknam benefits from the fact that he has established his successful partnership with Stake.com can continue. Other casino streamers are sure to follow.

Niknam recently expressed his own dissatisfaction to the Washington Post:

"Twitch wurCA and will be built on our back. They take half of most creators' sub-earnings, while they charge higher prices from viewers just to donate to their favorite streamers. They advertise everywhere and give us terrible rates and they demand exclusivity in return for nothing, while they give us almost no job guarantee."

Niknam has since announced that he working as a consultant at Kick will be without being an owner himself.

Criticism of Kick.com

Live Streaming audience

Live Streaming Audience: Many young people are watching / Source: Shutterstock.com

The first criticism of Kick.com comes directly from Twitch. Former director Marcus Graham commented on the missing information on the homepage: "I can say with certainty that Kick.com it's a hoax. I can't sit idly by and watch nonsense being put into the world as a glimmer of hope for creatives."

Likewise, it will Criticism from player protectors give. Because the casino streams are often watched by a young audience. So far we have Kick.com no need to go through age verification - by the way, not on Twitch either.

The young portal is still at the very beginning. But partnerships with the right influencers could ensure rapid growth. The streamers also get into the firing line of their fans because of the trivialization of gambling.

Summary of the new streaming platform Kick and the participation of Stake.com and trainwrecks

The situation is still a little confusing. Trainwrecks is actively promoting the portal Kick.com . In an interview, he pointed out that he himself only works in an advisory capacity. At the same time, however, he spoke of a connection between kick and stake.

Stake, on the other hand, has not yet officially committed to the platform. But Eddy Craven, one of the Stake founders, is at least involved in the project as an investor. Therefore, an interaction of the platforms cannot be ruled out at the present time.

For Kick.com that the streamers get a bigger piece of the cake of the revenue there. If the portal achieves initial success, other influencers could move there. This applies not only to casino streamers, but also to the typical gaming streamers.

There is criticism about Kick once because of the opaque ownership structures . But also from the point of view of player protectors, the young streaming portal is a danger, especially for young viewers who emulate their idols. After all, influencers today are what pop stars used to be - role models.

Nevertheless, this is an interesting project. Is there perhaps even a serious competition developing here for Amazon's streaming platform Twitch? We will continue to monitor the portal.

References:

Buffed.de - Reported early on about the new streaming portal Kick and about the connection with Stake and Trainwrecks.

The Washington Post (english) - About the online platform Kick, the opinion of trainwrecks and the anger of those responsible for Twitch.

Kick.com - The platform is still in the beta phase. But the first streamers are already active there, including ClassyBeef.

Twitch.tv - The experienced top dog in online streaming on the market. Criticizes Kick, which should also be understood as a concern for one's own clientele.

Common gambling authorities of the countries (GGL) - Reports on the Twitch change to only show casino streams from providers that have a license in reputable countries.

Author: Christian Webber
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